I'd say if you order after this first wave of shipments gets delivered you'd have a better shot at actually negotiating because they'll be actual pricing data to go off of. I asked about pricing when I ordered back in October my salesman said he won't have any pricing information until these cars actually get delivered. I asked again in December the only thing he was willing to tell me was the residual rates will most likely be very low so leasing may not be worth it. I should note I live in metro Detroit which has correlated to better prices on cars from the big 3 in my experience.