[Chris...]

I think we can safely kiss off Dodge's claim that Hornets will start showing up in dealerships by December:

Delays At One Of Europe's Biggest Ports Impact BMW, Stellantis, Tesla And More | Carscoops

Vehicles are piling up at the Port of Bremerhaven in Germany, leading to massive delays

www.carscoops.com

Vehicles are getting stuck in "in production" status for weeks, implying a parts shortage like many manufactures (especially Ford) have recently seen, and now they are saying that shipping may also take 3 months.

Realistically, I wouldn't expect to see a vehicle before February, at which point trade-in values are likely to plummet, as auto-auction is seeing week to week significant reductions in used car value. I think I'll keep my vehicle order, but get something else in the interim and decide on arrival if its worth trading in that vehicle (most likely not).

 

[pharmdtg]

I think we can safely kiss off Dodge's claim that Hornets will start showing up in dealerships by December:

Delays At One Of Europe's Biggest Ports Impact BMW, Stellantis, Tesla And More | Carscoops

Vehicles are piling up at the Port of Bremerhaven in Germany, leading to massive delays

www.carscoops.com

Vehicles are getting stuck in "in production" status for weeks, implying a parts shortage like many manufactures (especially Ford) have recently seen, and now they are saying that shipping may also take 3 months.

Realistically, I wouldn't expect to see a vehicle before February, at which point trade-in values are likely to plummet, as auto-auction is seeing week to week significant reductions in used car value. I think I'll keep my vehicle order, but get something else in the interim and decide on arrival if its worth trading in that vehicle (most likely not).

Not good…I ended up getting a CPO Volkswagen Taos, I still have my order for the Hornet but I’ll probably keep the Taos

 

[RexS]

Why would a driver shortage at a port in Germany affect cars coming from Italy?

 

[Chris...]

Why would a driver shortage at a port in Germany affect cars coming from Italy?

Many countries ship their vehicles by rail and then through Bremerhaven for export. Car parts would mostly come from China and so would come straight to Italy though, so I don't think its that.

A month ago another Italian plant was shut down due to lack of chips (the one that makes the Renegade/Compass), but no mention of Pomigliano shutting down, but its not normal for a vehicle to be in production for a month, it means something is shut down. Same thing happened to people tracking their Ford Bronco orders that got stuck in limbo due to missing parts.

Then again, with most manufacturers it doesn't enter production without a VIN and yet people here confirm they have in production with no VINs, meaning its not really in production.

 

[Hornet Buzz]

This is terrible news for us-

I reserved an electric lightning F150 pro...

That still hasn't happened.

Now my Dodge order isn't going to happen either this year.

And, my daily driver has been screwing up.

Transmission is starting to slip-

 

[RexS]

After looking thru many articles, it seems like the Hornet & Tonale will ship out of Salerno, Italy. This is the closest port to the Pomigliano production plant.
Giulia & Stelvio ship out of Port of Civitavecchia which is closer to Rome where they are built.

 

[Chris...]

After looking thru many articles, it seems like the Hornet & Tonale will ship out of Salerno, Italy. This is the closest port to the Pomigliano production plant.
Giulia & Stelvio ship out of Port of Civitavecchia which is closer to Rome where they are built.

That's good to hear, still showing "in production" for a full month though with no VIN, so I still think December timeline promised is unrealistic. Maybe January is possible, but I don't think December will happen personally.

The other reason I think Dodge also might know there are delays is that they are making zero marketing effort so far, whereas most manufacturers are already pimping their 2024 models that they expect to show up around April. I haven't seen any videos where reviewers are getting to drive any pre-production press-mules to build up hype which maybe means Dodge isn't expecting to have expedient or high quantity production for 2023.

 

[RexS]

Not holding my breath for Dec delivery for sure.

 

[Chris...]

Not holding my breath for Dec delivery for sure.

Yeah, still no change on my order status. I ended up buying a Nissan Rogue instead, but we may trade in our 2018 Mercedes if we like the Hornet whenever it finally shows up.

 

[richard ra]

Not good…I ended up getting a CPO Volkswagen Taos, I still have my order for the Hornet but I’ll probably keep the Taos





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Man, here in Europe we're told to reduce our domestic heaters to reduce electric consumption, and that there could be some electricity network cuts if you don't live close to an hospital. And I'm in France, a country which massively runs on nuclear produced electricity. That's why some of the European car manufacturing companies prepares the public to see ICE in the future, even after 2035.

 

[SomeDoug]

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The other reason I think Dodge also might know there are delays is that they are making zero marketing effort so far, whereas most manufacturers are already pimping their 2024 models that they expect to show up around April. I haven't seen any videos where reviewers are getting to drive any pre-production press-mules to build up hype which maybe means Dodge isn't expecting to have expedient or high quantity production for 2023.

Prediction NFL playoffs (or Super Bowl) will be the start of the marketing push